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A terrestrial monkey (paragraph one) that spends the majority of its time in the trees (paragraph two)?
- Yes.... they live on the ground in forests (in trees). I think the problem was one of translation. I've made a minor, clarifying edit. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:59, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]Can someone add the pronunciation for macaque? ~MDD4696 18:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
It is pronounced something like Makak 72.192.80.123 14:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- more like muckuck' I would say --92.202.15.47 (talk) 06:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
It's said 'mack ack' Vauxhall1964 (talk) 21:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
How Many?
[edit]Any idea how common they are, anybody? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.110.221.18 (talk • contribs).
They are very very common! In Japan, they harass shopkeepers so much that the shopkeepers use Airsoft Plastic B.B. Guns to ward away the monkeys from stealing goods! They are predominantly found in Mid to Northern Japan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.104.35.54 (talk) 00:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
References
[edit]I removed these[1][2] from the Behavior section because the links are not retrievable and they do not appear to substantiate the sentence they follow. It looks like they were supposed to go with content earlier in the paragraph, but in any case I couldn't find a use for them, but if anyone can find the target links and show that they belong in the article, please feel free to add them back in where appropriate. Wilhelm Meis (Quatsch!) 02:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- ^ World Association of Zoos and Aquariums[dead link ], § "Why do zoos keep the Japanese macaque", ¶ 1, sent. 1, downloaded 2009-02-15T16:00+09:00
- ^ [1] "Evolution in Four Dimensions: Genetic, Epigenetic, Behavioral, and Symbolic Variation in the History of Life" By Jablonka, Eva; Lamb, Marion J.; Zeligowski, Anna, Published by MIT Press, Cambridge, US-MA, 2005,ISBN 0262101076, 9780262101073, pp. 178, ch. 5, ¶ 2, sent. 6, downloaded 2009-02-15T16:00+09:00
Cuisine?
[edit]To the sentence, "The Japanese macaque has featured prominently in the religion, folklore, and art of Japan", a contributor added "cuisine" to the list. Now, some Japanese person may or may not eat monkey meat somewhere in Japan, but I would say that monkey meat has definitely NOT "featured prominently" in Japanese cuisine. So I reverted the edit. Boneyard90 (talk) 01:43, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, there is also a sake house in Japan, Kayabukiya Tavern, where monkeys constitute a prominent part of the waitstaff, or rather did before the tsunami (not sure about the current situation), but I'll admit this is an oddity there almost as much as it would be elsewhere, not a "prominent" aspect of that end of "cuisine" either... --Haruo (talk) 15:04, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Anus
[edit]Seeing as this monkey has such a brightly coloured shocking looking anus, could we get some photos of it on this page? Close ups if possible 134.134.137.73 (talk) 19:16, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Male average height: 570.1 mm?
[edit]How could it make sense to specify the average height for a species of monkey with four significant figures and percentages of their "typical day" with three significant figures? - 153.120.215.243 (talk) 02:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's in the cited source. Our job as editors isn't to change the sources because it may or may not meet our perceptions or opinions. SkepticalRaptor (talk) 02:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Do you mean that Wikipedia always has to be as detailed as its sources? And what was wrong in the rounding? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.120.215.243 (talk) 02:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Still no response here? Please explain why it makes sense in an encyclopedia to use four significant figures to describe the average length of a subset of a species of an animal. To me, this feels like saying that going by car from Los Angeles to San Diego would on average take two hours, four minutes and fifty seconds. 153.120.215.243 (talk) 03:09, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- As was said, we have no mandate to round down. How far should we round down? Not our job. That would be encroaching on WP:OR. We report what is published in scientific sources. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:15, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks UtherSRG. I don't know every Wikipedia rule, regulation and law, so now I know. The anonymous IP editor also violated some basic rounding principles, by rounding up and down without regards to what the number actually was. I forget the actual statistical principle, but the more individual data points you have, the more significant digits can be used in data. I think we should always stick to the sources. SkepticalRaptor (talk) 19:38, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Truly, though, if we have a source that gives a range of values (the 95% confidence interval, typically) that would be better than a single value. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be better. Let me see if we can find it. And advice to 153.120.215.243. In fact, if you measured 100 cars driving from LA to SD, it would be appropriate to say the average is 2 hr 4 min 50 sec. Rounding to 2 hr would inherently add error, in this case 3% error. If the data said we are 99% confident that the average is, in fact, 2 hr 4 min 50 sec, you are intentionally trying to change that average to what is essentially a random number. Not acceptable. If you want to change numbers, then bring citations that support an average or range of numbers. SkepticalRaptor (talk) 19:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Truly, though, if we have a source that gives a range of values (the 95% confidence interval, typically) that would be better than a single value. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks UtherSRG. I don't know every Wikipedia rule, regulation and law, so now I know. The anonymous IP editor also violated some basic rounding principles, by rounding up and down without regards to what the number actually was. I forget the actual statistical principle, but the more individual data points you have, the more significant digits can be used in data. I think we should always stick to the sources. SkepticalRaptor (talk) 19:38, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- As was said, we have no mandate to round down. How far should we round down? Not our job. That would be encroaching on WP:OR. We report what is published in scientific sources. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:15, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Killer Dolphins
[edit]I have posted a long comment in the Talk section of the main Macaque genus article, about the renaming of all the macaque species articles to "[Name] Macaque" (e.g. "Barbary Macaque") from their traditionally names (e.g. Barbary Ape).
Would you please take a look at that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macaque#Killer_Dolphins
And then correct this individual species article as necessary — I'm not sure which macaque species may have actually been called "[Name] Macaque" traditionally.
(And I hope you can see that the fact that I don't know that, after reading a Wikipedia article about the species, is why rewriting reality in Wikipedia is a problem.)
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.30.135 (talk) 12:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
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Changes in documented female troop leadership
[edit]Yakei, the former female leader of her troop has been replaced by Goro[2], a male monkey seemingly 16 years old. The zoo made an inauguration ceremony to celebrate the new head of the group[3].
News is from 3 days ago, still recent so who knows what will happen in the future. The two articles are in Japanese; I've found no English sources yet. Anyhow, it should be easy to verify my claims using google translate on them for example. 66.81.165.248 (talk) 08:24, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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